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Friday, July 22, 2011

Feminism

It is blatantly obvious to anyone who's ever looked at more than 2 children that kids have natural propensities, regardless of what the parent wants.

It is also blatantly obvious that most of those propensities are relatively strongly gender-correlated. Does that mean that all girls like dolls better than trucks? Absolutely not. Does it mean that if you were betting on two kids picked at random from respective populations of girls and boys, that the girl is awful likely to like the dolls more than the boy does? Hell yeah.

Yes...sounds just like Aretae to take 2 paragraphs to say girls are different than boys. Well...girls are different than boys statistically, which means that on most characteristically gendered traits, the averages are different, but some boys are less boyish on some axis than some girls are...and vice versa.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Feminism has a major (50%?more?) strain which is comprised entirely of explaining that girls shouldn't be girls...and that they should be boys instead. Now there's another strand that goes about explaining that girls are better than boys...and a third that says girls can't be boys, so we need to change the rules for them...and a 4th that says: there should be no rules specifying that the genders must be treated differently. ...but I'm not interested in those strains right now. I'm interested in the strain of feminism that says: girls should be boys. Be self-reliant and aggressive, sleep with whomever makes you horny, put career first, etc. Let's say....I'm suspicious of at least 3 of the strands listed above...and I'm currently finding this "be a boy" strain to be the most pernicious.

7 comments:

rightsaidfred said...

Pernicious...you are too kind.

The end result of feminism is to encourage women to go into the modern workforce and not have kids--two of the most unhappy things someone can do.

Alrenous said...

Feminists hate femininity. And would call me a misogynist for saying so.

Check this out:

zoegirl:

"Another thought: One of the difficulties I had coming out of the feminist model is that I thought that my value was based on how well I covered my half of the finances and how successful I was in my career. I didn't know that I was valuable as a female or even how to receive love as a feminine being. It was an extremely frightening leap because I couldn't be sure that I would be loved on the other side. I don't know if I'm unique in this brand of damage or if it's a struggle amongst feminists in general. I bring this up because I wonder if she has the attitude that he should be faithful because she's doing what she thinks is her part and apparently suffering for it. Maybe she doesn't understand that he loves her in spite of it, not because of it."

Alrenous said...

Sorry for the double post, but re-reading zoe's comment got me riled up.

Ideology is a weapon of mass destruction that makes nukes look like pointy sticks.

Certainly, killing a person is bad. How much worse is leaving them alive but convincing them they're inherently unlovable?

It barely even accomplishes anything! When you kill someone, you can at least take their stuff. Feminism and ideologies like it are almost pure sadism!

This. This is evil.

Even physical torture isn't as bad, because it can't pretend to be "for your own good." One consequence is that populations will eventually fight back against, for instance, paddling.

This. This is why I can't take Hitler seriously as an arch-villain. Sure, it was bad, but it's physically impossible for a Hitler to put every German in the concentration camps.

Even Stalin and Mao were just fallout, even if they did succeed in giving everyone eastern eyes.

Instead, consider how many billions of women have had their lives utterly ruined by feminism.

Now consider public education.

Hitler may have had a lot of blood on his hands.

Karl Marx destroys souls.

cephalicfurrow said...

You're right, feminism consists of multiple, sometimes mutually contradictory claims. The fundamental force behind feminism is that women be raised in status relative to men. As an adherent of the argumentative theory of intelligence, it should come as no surprise to you that most feminists have little interest in coherence or following the logical conclusion of their claims, and aren't even aware that such inconsistencies exist.

cephalicfurrow said...

You're right, feminism consists of multiple, sometimes mutually contradictory claims. The fundamental force behind feminism is that women be raised in status relative to men. As an adherent of the argumentative theory of intelligence, it should come as no surprise to you that most feminists have little interest in coherence or following the logical conclusion of their claims, and aren't even aware that such inconsistencies exist. As long as an argument works to change the sexes' relative status, that's good enough.

Chris said...

And then there's the strain that wants to have boys behave like girls, and is willing to drug them silly to accomplish that.

drpat said...

There is also a school of thought that says Boys shouldn't sleep with anyone who gets them horny either.

And a related one that points out that you can't have one sex being sexually promiscuous if the other sex isn't. Not hetrosexually anyway.